Anecdotes+Antidotes in B#

• 1. dannyno | 03/04/2013

"Plaza Hotel". Could it be: http://www.cpmanchester.com/location.html?

• 2. tom_regazzi | 19/06/2013

The opening line paraphrases a quote from the Marx Brothers' Duck Soup: "If chewing gum is chewed The chewer is pursued."

• 3. bzfgt | 19/06/2013

That's all accounted for here:

http://annotatedfall.doomby.com/pages/the-annotated-lyrics/jung-nev-s-antidotes.html

• 4. dannyno | 18/09/2013

"The truant is pursued
And the smoker is bestewed"

I'm hearing:

"The chewer is pursued
And the smoker is pursued"

• 5. dannyno | 14/10/2013

Definitely chewer not truant, throughout.

I'm also hearing "and dozy doats" after some of the "antidotes" - nowhere to be seen above....

• 6. russell richardson | 08/05/2015

Sorry to be pedantic but B# is indeed a key ( ask someone from Chets) and it sounds like a good exhortation: Be sharp!

'dozy doats' ( I can't tell cos I dot have this record!) could be from the formerly famous nonsense song .... followed by' a kiddly-divey too, wouldn't you?' from the 1940s: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mairzy_Doats

• 7. bzfgt | 26/06/2015

I don't know who Chet is but B# would be C natural--there is no incidental between B and C.

I have the "doazy doats" stuff on the "Jung Nev" page, which I lazily linked to rather than pasting the notes here.

• 8. russell richardson | 15/07/2015

more B-sharp crap:
it's a key only in theory, but that's sometimes necessary for musicologists and composers (like the sq root of -1 is for mathematicians)

The key of B# major is extremely complex and quite unnecessary because it sounds like C major. And that by using two sharps and five double sharps. But it exists: in the field of philosophy. The following quotation from the book »Ketzereien« (heresies) of Günther Anders is a nice example of the use of musical terms in communication. Using B# major as a paraphrase for complex speaking is answered with B# minor as a paraphrase for discretion.

but yeah, it's the same sound as C major, instead of having no accidentals, it has three sharps and five double sharps. yes indeed.

• 9. bzfgt | 17/07/2015

This is all interesting stuff, I revised my note. It's 5 i the morning so I didn't get in deep or for long, but it looks like it's basically an exercise in writing music (no one would use a score in B# because it would be taking the easiest key to read and making it the hardest). So in that case there is a key of "E# too of course. I always assumed that the proper doctrine was that B and E sharp don't exist, but I can see someone revising this (a purely nominal move) for the sake of making the system more strictly formal--you don't need to consult content, you just follow a rule and everything comes out right, it's kind of like logic.

• 10. nairng | 22/07/2015

"I met an evil laugh" seems like a mishearing of "I led an evil life", first line of Race With The Devil by Gene Vincent, covered by the Fall elsewhere.

• 11. bzfgt | 24/07/2015

Yeah, maybe, although elsewhere it's "I saw an evil (?)" and maybe "laugh" is wrong but "life" wouldn't fit perfectly there either. "Lad"? I dunno, the lyric is a legacy from Lyrics Parade and ot attested elsewhere, this will have to be closely considered...