Guest Informant
Lyrics
Bahzhdad State Cog-Analyst (1)
You'll never guess who informed
It was Craig and Steve
The stool pigeons, cha-cha-cha-cha... (2)
[Probably Hanley]: "Bahzhdad State Cog-Analyst" (3)
Guest informant, guest informant
Guest informant, guest informant
I followed the colonel to the cheap hotel,
I tapped the beds
I wired the phones as well,
Colonel Boggs Maroley was his mantle
Had not counted on
I had not counted on
Guest Informant, guest informant
I've been split on, I've been touted on,
I had not counted on Guest Informant
In the burning scorch of another Sunday over
The miserable Scottish hotel,
Resembled a Genesis or Marillion, 1973 LP cover (4)
All the hotel staff had been dismissed,
It was me, the Hoover, and the O. A. P.s (5)
Asked: Could he turn killer?
Thought: could I kill him?
Pondered: Or is he itinerant?
But I guess he's just a cog analyst
Guest informant, guest informant
Bahzhdad State Cog-Analyst
I could not comprehend, I could not understand
Had not counted on, I had not counted all
Guest informant, guest informant
I've been split by a first-grade moron
And I had not counted on, I had not counted on
Guest informant, guest informant
Guest informant, guest informant
I've been let down, by a first-grade moron
And I could not comprehend
Had not counted on
Guest informant, guest informant
Notes
1. This opening line, initially chanted by Brix who is then joined by MES, has been the subject of as much debate as anything within the sphere of the Fall. The Lyrics Parade appends this note to the track:
Sean Russell advised on 14 February 1996: "I wrote to Cog Sinister with a pile of questions, one of them being what the hell Brix was saying [in "Guest Informant"]. Lucy [Rimmer] wrote back and said she asked Brix, who said the phrase was "Baghdad/Space Cog/Analyst"
The only problem is that nobody seems to say that phrase in the song; to me, it seems pretty clearly to be the inexplicably weird "Bahzhdad State Cog Analyst." "Cog" is short for "cognition," and the abbreviation is probably modeled on Philip K. Dick's coinage "precog" (Dick's word denotes knowledge of the future). "Bahzhdad" may be an alternate pronunciation of "Baghdad" (pronounced this way for a reason for which I cannot account), but nobody in the song says "Baghdad."
More recently (2013, and again in 2018) Brix responded to a query via Twitter, writing that the lyric is "Baghdad, Stay-Cog, Analyst."
Meanwhile, dannyno has done some investigating and discovered a third account of the lyric from Brix:
In 2013, Brix is asked via Twitter what the lyric was, and she replies: ""Baghdad, stay-cog, analyst."
Well, I've just been re-reading old issues of The Pseud Mag.
In particular, I've been re-reading issue 10, dated June/July 2006.
Specifically, I've been re-reading the interview with Brix by Martin Peters on pages 5-7 of that issue.
And to get right down to brass tacks, I've been re-reading her answer to this question, on p.7:
And it turns out that her answer to that question is:
However, the next time Brix was asked she was more helpful, insofar as she synthesiized two of the three options into a more comprehensive and harmonious whole:
Brix Smith @Brixsmithstart Jan 28
I'm chanting.....,"Baghdad state-cog Analyst. Basdad stay-cog Analyst" mystery cleared!
So, two different versions, and then when pressed:
Brix Smith @Brixsmithstart Jan 28
I varried it. I switched from one 2 the other 2 create confusion. Baghdad/Badad[sic] State/Stay ( then ) cog analyst stayed the same every time
I'm not sure if she means "Badad," it seems more likely it's a typo for "Bazdad."
Note that on the script of Hey! Luciani, in MES's handwriting, we find "Bahzhdad State Cog Analyst" (see comments 41 and 44 below).
Brix says the lyric is a "direct reference to the Jetsons cartoon" (whence "Cog Sinister" also derives). "Cogswell's Cogs" is a rival company to "Spacely Sprockets," where George Jetson works. Note that this, unfortunately, does seem to add somewhat to the allure of "Space Cog," which had otherwise nearly been rendered apocryphal...
MES had the following to say about the track:
It's about hotel paranoia, about incompetent hotel staff. They're always going on about how wonderful their hotel is, but they can't even keep your room locked. I tried to pass my suspicions about hotels on to the rest of the group (laughing).
Whomever the State Cog/Stay-Cog Analyst is, s/he is the subject of the vague suggestion of intrigue that serves as the song's narrative.
marvell78 comments on the Fall online forum:
I would like to think that the sound of the word is deliberately muddled to maximise its suggestiveness. it is clearly baghdad on the fourth line. i played it at different speeds and each speed still gives you the hard g sound on the fourth line. but not on the others
from my own limited studio experience, people habitually fuck about with lyrics as the takes accumulate. and sometimes it ends with an ok for the fuzzier versions because at that stage everybody is hearing and singing different things (out of boredom, out of a sense of fun and out of that state of mind you get into where you really want to open up the lyrics as the takes go on). and the opportunities this provides for the singers and the listeners to expand on the original line (whatever it might have been) is too good to miss
in the discussion of this song, i often get the impression that people think it may originally have been baghdad space cog analyst, and that this has been eroded. that may well be the case, but there is the alternative: that there was no orignal line as such and that the line was jammed/improvised and began to approach baghdad space cog analyst. so, what you have isnt the line 'degrading' from sense into 'nonsense' but the line coming into being (if you know what i mean lol). and that , as a consequence, it never quite settles, never having really existed in any particular form anyway
personally, i would prefer to see the uncertainty as a deliberate and creative act. anybody old enough to remember those magazines that printed song lyrics must remember the heartbreak when you discovered that the lines you thought were there weren't there at all. better to have gone on with your own uncertain but more productive misreadings.
Guest Informant is a name of hotel visitor guides, such as this one. Thanks to Ted for pointing this out, and for having a blog called "Stone Cold Pimpin'."
Dan submits the following:
From Steve Hanley's The Big Midweek (p232), in relation to the Hey Luciani play: " we play 'Guest Informant', transformed by the loose storyline of the play into a song about someone disclosing classified information, whereas it started life as an anecdote about new drummer Si. In the throes of a drunken stupor, Nick Cave and Mark Smith decided to join the rock and roll masses by chucking the TV out of a hotel window. But it being a German rock and roll hotel, the TV had been chained down, so they chucked Si's duvet out of the window instead. They didn't account for Si grassing them up when the receptionist tried to bill him for it the following morning, leaving Mark to foot the bill."
See the comments below for more intriguing speculation!
The rhythm of the vocals in the chanted refrain, whatever the words may be, is the same as in the title phrase/refrain of the Kinks song "Give the People What They Want." It seems to me that there must be other, and older, antecedents, as it seems like a natural or even almost obvious rhythm, but I cannot think of any.
Reader Max Williams says "Bazdad" seems to first appear in the promotional video for Perverted by Language (available on Youtube, and see below):
"The segment in question is after the video for Eat Y'Self Fitter, and is a poem called 'The Confidence of Henry Glasspants.' It starts: 'Good evening. I am a Sudan-Arab agent, in the pay of Bazdad.' I always assumed this was some kind of play on Baghdad, even though it's not in the Sudan. I don't know if the poem was written by MES, I always assumed it was written by the person reading it (whose name escapes me). Either way, it may have entered MES's lexicon as the sort of repeated in-joke reference of which he seemed quite fond."
Alan Pillay is the reader of the poem (thanks Dan), and s/he says "Mark E Smith" at the end, so it appears to be by MES.
See comment #56 below.
2. "Stool pigeons cha-cha-cha" is taken from the 1982 hit "Stool Pigeon" by Kid Creole and the Coconuts.
3. This is enunciated clearly, slowly, and a capella, and nowhere is it more clear that the sounds are "Bazdad State Cog Analyst."
4. Of these two progressive or "art rock" bands, only Genesis was active in 1973, when they released Selling England By the Pound. The cover can be seen here, and you can make of it what you will, but there's probably no reason to think MES is being particularly precise when he says "1973." Below, G-man points out that the back cover of Genesis's 1972 album Foxtrot does include an image of a hotel in the background of the beach scene...
...but Martin rebuketh us:
"It may be worth bearing in mind that in live performances MES also referred to such disparate acts as Steve Winwood, Supertramp, Joan Baez, Van Halen and Stevie Wonder. Also, in many of these gigs it's not the hotel itself which resembles this record covers, but the hotel back garden."
5. In England a vacuum cleaner is called a "Hoover," after the company that pioneered their widespread dissemination. Antoine points out that this could also be an allusion to J. Edgar Hoover, but Martin counters: "In some live versions, MES says "hydraulic hoover", which might seem to rule out the J. Edgar Hoover theory suggested above." It might seem that way indeed, Martin! On the other hand, semantic drift is not unknown in a Fall song...
O.A.P.s are "Old Age Pensioners," i.e. retired folk are the only ones who stay in the hotel during the day time.
Comments (67)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29031709@N00/977625105/in/photolist-2uozTg
It's common in many hotels. Perhaps MES saw one on tour and loved the title.
I think it's a red herring - the song seems to identify a culprit, rather than something in a publication, as the cause of the apparent unmasking.
Dan
http://www.visi.com/fall/news/luciani.html
The "B-S-A" chant first appears outside the context of the song:
"J: My programme master in Khartoum, his fingerclick word was digital. Have you a watch or something with computer chip?
F: Cartier of course, Switzerland, Grenoble.
J: The chant of [Bazdad] I now recall. Turn the appliance to the north east. Utter after me, I be.
ALL: Digital.
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(indecipherable robot-type voice monologue)
BSA - BSA - BSA - BSA - BSA"
Dan
MES uses mispronunciation as a key element in his songs and live performances, either to either for self-amusement, to mess with the audience and press, or simply reflect what some people think the words actually are. Music trolling at its finest.
"A frivolous question, perhaps: you remember the song "Guest Informant"? What exactly are you singing on it? Is it 'Baghdad State cog analyst?'"
And it turns out that her answer to that question is:
"'Baghdad state cog analyst', yes."
I see now that I edited my own question. I actually wrote: "Is it Baghdad State analyst?". Brix put back the "cog". Seems that cog is definitely there!
I could have sworn I already had that in there, but no...
So is Bazdad some kind of character created by MES? There seems to be a fictional world lurking underneath the surface of many Fall songs, and only partly described in the lyrics.
" we play 'Guest Informant', transformed by the loose storyline of the play int a song about someone disclosing classified information, whereas it started life as an anecdote about new drummer Si. In the throes of a drunken stupor, Nick Cave and Mark Smith decided to join the rock and roll masses by chucking the TV out of a hotel window. But it being a German rock and roll hotel, the TV had been chained down, so they chucked Si's duvet out of the window instead. They didn't account for Si grassing them up when the receptionist tried to bill him for it the following morning, leaving Mark to foot the bill."
Cover artist Paul Whitehead confirmed that he was going for a Holiday Inn -type hotel. Click the thumbnail cover on the page and you'll see the hotel in the top left corner: http://rockpopgallery.typepad.com/rockpop_gallery_news/2007/06/cover_story_fox.html
I had remarked on the page for Bombast that Mark shouts "Bastard! Idiot!" with a definite Z in there, it sounds exactly like it does on Guest Informant. If we assume that the "bazdad" in this song is just a disguised and mispronounced "bastard" and "cog" refers to "cognition" as mentioned above (which it most likely does, MES and PKD and all) then we can interpret the line as "Bastard state cognition analyst." Which would be, I don't know, some sort of sci-fi spy who works for the state and is a bastard, I guess. The story does make references to a colonel being followed.
Additionally, "It was me, the Hoover" could possibly refer to Federal Bureau of Investigation founder/director J. Edgar Hoover, that would fit in quite nicely with the theme of the song.
In some live versions, MES says "hydraulic hoover", which might seem to rule out the J. Edgar Hoover theory suggested above.
For fuller versions of Guest Informant (and many more) live variants, here's a link:
https://sites.google.com/site/reformationposttpm/pithy-smithyisms/in-the-1980s
http://z1.invisionfree.com/thefall/index.php?showtopic=42077&view=findpost&p=40045979
Dan
Anyway, regardless of whether it's "guess he's" or "guest is" at that point, for the earlier chants, "bastard's" replaced the first word, leaving the phrase as "bastard's ..st a cog analyst".
In the growled overdub, the first letter does indeed sound like a 'g' so maybe this phrase is a bastardisation(!) of "guest is ..st a cog analyst" or it could be that Hanley(?) was just saying what he thought the others were chanting.
As for Brix and her changing story, is it possible that on the original recording she was just chanting what Mark told her without knowing what it was? Maybe.
Anyhow that's my theory...
"Let’s clear up this mess once & for all. On Guest Informant, by #TheFall
I chant.. (Forget the spelling)
BAHZDAD -STAYCOG-ANA-LYST.
This is a direct reference to the JETSONS cartoon (Cogswell's Cogs) which is where Cog Sinister also derived it’s name from.
This is the image:
Mind you, there's no law that says that the script of the play had to have been slavishly followed on record.
-------More recently (2013, and again in 2018) Brix responded to a query via Twitter, writing that the lyric is "Baghdad, Stay-Cog, Analyst."
Aside from that, I’ll weigh in that I think commenter John, way back in 2013, was spot on with this comment on the bsa enigma:
“MES uses mispronunciation as a key element in his songs and live performances, either for self-amusement, to mess with the audience and press, or simply reflect what some people think the words actually are. Music trolling at its finest.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaLJXiidK3A
Does anyone know who the guy reading the poem is?
See comment 27 (Max Williams) on "Bombast"
I think Genesis 1973 is a snipe at Marillion who are the main targets, given the "miserable Scottish hotel" angle. Marillion were often derided for their Genesis derivative sound. First two Marillion album covers would fit the description loosely, but I think more likely is Clutching at Straws, released around the time Guest Informant took form, June 1987. Sleeve would have been familiar long before, by pre-release press.
Clutching at Straws
Marillion were in fact an English group, from Aylesbury, but the aura and wiles of their Scottish singer, Fish, led many to assume they were from Scotland.
Where was this confirmed?
Did Jive Bunny have any drum beats that were not themselves lifted from elsewhere?
Guest Informant was first recorded for a Peel Session on 28 April 1987, broadcast 11 May. But the earliest documented live performance is from 8 November 1986.
And of course it was on some formats of The Frenz Experiment, released in February 1988.
Jive Bunny's first album, on the other hand, wasn't released until February 1989.
Jive Bunny's first single, Swing the Mood, was released on 24 June 1989.
True, the original version appeared on the Music Factory Mastermix 12" #22 in 1988: https://www.discogs.com/Various-Music-Factory-Mastermix-Issue-No-22/release/903773, but that's still well after the first performance and first recording of Guest Informant.
Conclusion: the Guest Informant drum beat is therefore not lifted from any Jive Bunny hit, by virtue of the fact that when Guest Informant was first performed/recorded, there had not been any Jive Bunny hits.
However, Jive Bunny records were built out of samples, and so it is possible, even likely, that the Guest Informant drum beat was inspired by an old rock and roll song later also sampled by Jive Bunny.
https://www.officialcharts.com/artist/8833/jive-bunny/
https://twitter.com/simonWolstencr1/status/1539945534219292675?s=20&t=C4gzPsnyUDjjQRQsjN24qQ
https://twitter.com/apaindoc/status/1540226784163241986?s=20&t=5ws9dj53m6vx3TD-wdmUug