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Mother-Sister
Lyrics
Er, what's this song about?
Er, nothing. (1)
None
No recipes
It was like a see-saw
No
It was like an up and down
Bye bye
Mother, Sister
Mother, Sister
Why did you put your head in?
Reach or preach
It's all a diminished return (2)
Now
Floorboard
Creaks
Mother, Sister
Mother, Sister
Why did you push your head in?
Astray
Our Friends
And the fathers are underground
Your mouth is sold out
Mother, Sister
Mother, Sister
Why did you put your head in?
The pylon
Sad, sad, sad!
Notes
1. Despite this introduction, it has been suggested that the song may be about being caught masturbating, or in the midst of some sex act. This seems like a plausible reading, although a speculative one, so it should be regarded with a certain amount of suspicion; indeed, see the account from Martin Brahmah below, which seems to suggest otherwise.
Una Baines wrote the music, and her band Poppycock released a song in 2016, "Lizard Man," which appears on the German Shepherd charity album Malawi. It begins with a man saying "Eh, what's this about?" and another man responding "Eh, nothing!"
Martin Brahmah tells a story that would explain much about the lyrics:
THE STORY OF MOTHER-SISTER!
“Mother-Sister!” That’s a funny one. That’s one I just arranged, I suppose, because Una’s credit was writing the music, because she did write the basic chords on the piano. Playing off that, I had to come up with an interesting bass line and a quirky guitar part. I was trying to make it Beefhearty, more angular. Obviously Mark wrote the words. Mark told me to say, “what’s this song about?” at the start of it - that’s me saying that. That was the little patter he just told me to say in the studio, you ask me what this song’s about, and I’ll say, nothing.
I didn’t get for a while that Mother-Sister! is actually about my mother, about a story I told him. He’s describing where we lived, but I didn’t realise it at the time, it was only later that I did. That’s why he asked me to ask what the song was about, because it was about me and my mother. That’s what Mark is like, subtly deceitful! He only came round to our house once, I think. I’d told him about not having a father, and he’d tell me to shut up, because he thought I was bragging. But that’s just my story, I didn’t know my father.
I grew up with my mum . . . well when I was younger, I lived with my gran, and I’d see my mum at weekends. They’d tell me that this was quite common then, in Manchester in those days, in the sixties. But for kids who didn’t know who the father was, they’d say your gran was your mum, and your mum was your sister, and your great-gran was your gran, et cetera . . . they’d move the generation up a notch to explain the lack of a father. So when I was young, I thought my gran was my mum, because that’s who I lived with, and I thought my mum was my sister.
So when I tried to explain this to Mark, he was quite miffed that I’d had a more urchin-like childhood than him, because he saw himself as working class, but he had a dad, and his dad was a self-employed plumber. So he had his own business. Whereas, I didn’t know who my dad was, I’d been brought up between houses in east Manchester. The penny didn’t drop for a while, nonetheless, that Mother-Sister! was obviously about me talking about my relationship with my mother, that she’s more like a big sister than a mum. I went to live with my mum finally when I was seven, and that’s when I moved to Prestwich, in north Manchester.
I was telling Mark about that, and outside the house, when he visited . . . we lived by the motorway, and there was a big electricity pylon outside of the house. You could hear buzzing all the time, but we got the house really cheap because it was by an electricity pylon and a motorway! And of course, the song ends with “why did you put your head in the pylon?” and he starts screaming! That part doesn’t make a lot of sense, but it’s impressions of my family home.
I had quite a pretty mum, so he may have fancied her. A lot of my friends did, because she was a pretty blond and young for a mum - a lot of lads with older mums thought mine was quite sexy, as teenaged boys do! I was told that my mum was my sister, though my mum denies it now! I’d been given it subtly, at a young age. I used to stay with my mum at weekends. My mum lived with my great-gran, and she’d had the same thing happen . . . she thought her gran was her mum when she was young. There were no men around for three generations!
Slight lyrical variation on the Peel version: "It's all a diminished return" is replaced (or vice versa) with the oddly-enunciated "the compen-sa-tory award.
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http://www.pledgemusic.com/projects/blueorchids
Basically, for a fairly hefty sum (though some of the secrets on sale have already been sold) Martin Bramah promises to tell us the stories behind not only Mother-Sister but also No Xmas For John Quays. as well as various songs on the Dragnet album ("Uncredited, Martin pretty much wrote six of the tunes on The Fall’s “Dragnet.” What’s the story with that album, anyhow? Typewritten on acid-free paper, just one copy. This is an early draft which differs from the account in Martin’s forthcoming autobiography!")
Does anyone have any more information about any of the above?
I asked Martin about the news of an autobiography, and he said it was a wind-up - he's not really doing one - but he had lots of people ask him about early Fall stuff, so he wrote up his versions of various events and what resulted is what's up for sale on the PledgeMusic. One of a kind and that's it. Given that, they don't seem very expensive. One of them (don't know which) is seven typewritten pages, apparently done on a real typewriter. The best thing he told me was how about half the music on Dragnet were written by him without credits and that the music of Work was originally the music for Before The Moon Falls, but Mark couldn't sing that forcefully so the later version changes the tune!
http://z1.invisionfree.com/thefall/index.php?showtopic=33579&st=150
Dead and buried? Miners?
"What's this song about?" etc, present and correct.
"a Blue Orchids fan has allowed the story of "Mother-Sister!" to be made public, as told by Martin Bramah":
"You'd be amazed at how many people react to that 'Little & large' bit on 'Mother/Sister"
"Little and Large", I think, refers to the British comedy duo of that name: Syd Little and Eddie Large. Little was the straight man. There are youtube videos of them, and if you watch them you will marvel at how such a dismal act ever became a massive mainstream hit, with their own TV series etc - ITV in 1977, and then a BBC series from 1978-1991. An indictment of the culture.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_and_Large
25 November 1978 Prestwich Hospital Social Club:
"The next one's dedicated to Una. I know you're out there, baby. And it's 'Mother-Sister'." (before "Mother-Sister")
And a brief introduction:
8 December 1978 Teasers, Dundee:
The next song is about nothing. 'Mother-Sister'.
22 September 78 Harp Lounge, Belfast:
- "This song is about nothing. The words just fit the music. So anything I say [unclear] or something. This song's good, know what I mean?. Mother - Sister."
I know for a fact that that comment will read to some people as completely foolish and delusional.
And, to reiterate, I don't think it's very likely that this is what the song is about, it's just one of the more plausible interpretations on offer at the moment.
"It's all a diminished return" is replaced (or vice versa) with the oddly-enunciated "the compen-sa-tory award"
https://www.discogs.com/Yabby-You-Dread-Prophecy-The-Strange-And-Wonderful-Story-Of-Yabby-You/release/6675271
From the CD booklet:
and
Since the song was unreleased, if it was an influence/inspiration it must have been available under another title, or by a different artist, or in a different version (as per reggae tradition). But none is known.
Martin Bramah, asked about it by me (@dannyno_01) on Twitter, said (Tweet on 28 March 2020 at 5:16PM):
https://twitter.com/MartinBramah/status/1243950186277285888
Vaguely echoes No Xmas for John Quays:
The last 3 words of the song after 'pylon'
MES chokes out
'Sad sad sad'
It's mixed in with the overall cacophony a bit but is easily audible
"The Pylon (Mother-Sister)"
A setlist for UMIST (14 July 1978) has the title listed simply as "Mother-Sister".
At the relevant time, Bramah's mum and step-dad were living at Warwick Avenue, Whitefield, Prestwich.
If you look at Google Maps, you can see how close the motorway and pylon (actually there are a couple in the area) are:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@53.541826,-2.2800656,171a,35y,39.46t/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu
Their house, I believe, would have been the last one at the end of Warwick Avenue close by the motorway fence.