(Jung Nev's) Antidotes
Lyrics
The Marshall Suite:
Antidotes
And dozy votes (2)
Antidotes
Antidotes
Antidotes
And those who vote
Where chewing-gum is chewed
The chewer is pursued (3)
Seventies
Every time
So secondary modern (4)
Antidotes and those who vote
Antidotes and those who vote
Antidotes and those who vote
Antidotes
No more inner-city for you
Antidotes and those who vote
Country
Carry on sir
Carry on sir (5)
If liberty is screwed the sports teacher include
If liberty is screwed the sports teacher include
Antidotes
Antidotes and those who vote
Miss you, miss you, miss you...
Antidotes and those who vote
Antidotes
Antidotes and those who vote
Antidotes
Antidotes and those who vote
Antidotes
Miss you, miss you, miss you …
PEEL ("Antidotes"):
Antidotes
And those who wrote
And in the hoose hidden
If chewing gum is chewed
Antidotes
The wacky sports teacher and the big fat bullies
In the class he tolerates their dads on teams
It's a carry on sir country
Antidotes
If chewing gum is chewed
The chewer is pursued
And in the back shed he's shot, became a dog’s bone
Had scales on his face before he even reached the Sports Minister
Thanks to a country that’s so secondary modern
Antidote
And dog’s…
Shoves people off the train and shouted at the show, rants
The driver always wants to go round and round and round the
There's no antidote
The poison is rising his skin is scaly to touch
Alright
Notes
1. "Jung Nev" is apparently a reference to co-writer Neville Wilding, the (at the time) new guitarist for the Fall. The song is reprised later as "Anecdotes+Antidotes in B#," with many of the same lyrics but totally different music (although B# is a fictional key). WIlding does not have a writing credit on the "B#" version, so the title suggests that this is "his" version. Musically, it has often been pointed out that the song sounds a bit like Led Zeppelin's "Kashmir."
2. The refrain resembles the 1943 novelty number "Mairzy Doats", performed by Al Trace and his Silly Symphonists:
- Mairzy doats and dozy doats and liddle lamzy divey
- A kiddley divey too, wouldn't you?
A clue to the lyrics comes later:
- If the words sound queer and funny to your ear, a little bit jumbled and jivey,
- Sing "Mares eat oats and does eat oats and little lambs eat ivy."
- It's not certain whether he's saying "dozy votes" or "those who vote" (i.e. can advance their puritanical values at the polls) or whatever. Both have been proposed, and the old Lyrics Parade had "those who vote."
- ^
3. This line is taken from the Marx Brothers' song "Just Wait til I Get Through With It," from the movie Duck Soup. The lyrics to the latter:
Lady:
If it's not asking too much,
Sung:
For our information
Just for illustration
Tell us how you intend to run the nation
Rufus T. Firefly:
These are the laws of my administration
No one's allowed to smoke
Or tell a dirty joke
And whistling is forbidden
Chorus:
We're not allowed to tell a dirty joke
Hail, hail Freedonia
Rufus:
If chewing gum is chewed
The chewer is pursued
And in the hoosegow hidden
Chorus:
If we choose to chew we'll be pursued
Rufus:
If any form of pleasure is exibited
Report to me and it will be prohibited
I'll put my foot down, so shall it be
This is the land of the free
The last man nearly ruined this place
He didn't know what to do with it
If you think this country's bad off now,
Just wait 'til I get through with it
The country's taxes must be fixed
And I know what to do with it
If you think you're paying too much now
Just wait till I get throught with it
*whistle*
I will not stand for anything that's crooked or unfair
I'm strictly on the upper knot, so everyone beware
If any man's caught taking graft, and I don't get my share
We stand'im up against the wall and pop! Goes the weasel
Chorus:
So everyone beware, you're stricken or unfair
-------unless he gets his share
Rufus:
If any man should come between a husband and his bride
We'll find out which one she prefers by letting her decide
If she prefers the other man, the husband steps outside
We stand him up against the wall and pop! Goes the weasel
See "more information" below for more information (appropriately enough).
More Information
(Jung Nev's) Antidotes: Fall Tracks A-Z
Anecdotes and Antidotes in B#: Fall Tracks A-Z
Dan explains the British school system:
"Public" schools are fee paying private schools, referred to quite often as "independent schools". State-funded (tax funded, known as maintained) schools are of various kinds - the situation is complex due to the evolution of national education policy - and there are marked local differences because for a long time tax-funded schools were controlled by local authorities (1870 Education Act gave local councils the ability to create schools to fill gaps in private/church provision).
Compulsory Education is in two stages: primary schools, aged 5 to 11 (children may be in nursery before school age); secondary schools, aged 11-16. Children may go on to study at college or sixth form until aged 18, at which point they may go on to tertiary or further education at University or college.
The 1944 Education Act established the comprehensive education at secondary level, allowing local authorities to establish the tripartite system of secondary modern, secondary technical and grammar schools. The idea was that pupils would follow the stream best suited to their aptitude, but it was clearly a system designed to perpetuate class divisions and caused political difficulties over time. Grammar Schools did exist before this.
How this was done did vary locally, but most followed what became the standard model. Technical schools didn't take off everywhere, so mainly it was a choice (well, not a choice) of either secondary modern or grammar school, and the 11+ exam was used to determine which schools pupils would go to. Supposedly more academic children would be sent to grammar schools and everyone else would go to secondary modern.
In the 1960s, a Labour Government established the "comprehensive school" model nationally - these had been tried in some areas from the 1940s. The idea was that all children would go to the same schools, rather than divided between grammar and secondary modern. You had comprehensive secondary schools instead, with streaming by ability (probably subject by subject) within them. Labour's policy was that all local authorities should convert from the secondary/modern grammar system, and this led to the 11+ system disappearing in many areas, but not all. The next Conservative government abolished compulsion, but the momentum was such that the vast majority of grammar and secondary modern schools had been merged or closed and replaced by the mid-1970s, and most new schools were comprehensive.
However, in those few places where local authorities had resisted implementing the Labour directive long enough, the 11+ and grammar schools survived to see the Tories abolish compulsion, and in those places the 11+ has existed ever since, and so therefore have secondary modern and grammar schools.
So when people refer to grammar schools and secondary modern schools, they are referring to a class-divided education system, in which the supposedly more academically able (read: mainly middle class, but not exclusively because it was a test that got you there) went to grammar schools.
Note that some Grammar Schools are fee-paying private (i.e. "public") schools with that name. This may be because they chose to go independent rather than convert or close in the 1960s under Labour. Manchester Grammar School is an example.
Some Gramm
Mark E Smith, let it be noted, went to Stand Grammar School. Stand Grammar School was founded in 1688 but got into financial trouble and was taken over the local authority in 1908. There were separate schools for girls and boys (a common feature in many areas). But in 1979 Bury went comprehensive and the two grammar schools merged into Philips High School. "High Schools" is a name used for non-grammar secondary schools in some areas in Britain, but not all, often in places with a grammar tradition, as far as I can tell.
Comments (15)
At 00:56 "some secondary modern..." i.e. Comprehensive Schools, Public Schools as they'd be in the states. I guess this relates to the sports teacher below. A hint of working class snobbery from MES the Grammar School boy here.
The sports teacher bit is garbled but I think the gist of it is
"If liberty is screwed
The sports teacher include"
01:25 "big fat bullies"
02:25 "in the back shed he's shot-ah, became a dog's bone"
02:51 "Thanks to a country that’s so secondary-modern" (see previous note)
03:25 "And the weird Addams family replica, schizophrene, vice film, hooded eyes, shows [or shoves] people off the train and shouted at the show, rants"
04:06 "There's no antidote"
4:29 "the poison is rising, his skin is [scaly to touch??]
I don't know we'll ever know "dozy votes" etc. for sure...
"poison rising" part very uncertain but what I had was wrong
Compulsory Education is in two stages: primary schools, aged 5 to 11 (children may be in nursery before school age); secondary schools, aged 11-16. Children may go on to study at college or sixth form until aged 18, at which point they may go on to tertiary or further education at University or college.
The 1944 Education Act established the comprehensive education at secondary level, allowing local authorities to establish the tripartite system of secondary modern, secondary technical and grammar schools. The idea was that pupils would follow the stream best suited to their aptitude, but it was clearly a system designed to perpetuate class divisions and caused political difficulties over time. Grammar Schools did exist before this.
How this was done did vary locally, but most followed what became the standard model. Technical schools didn't take off everywhere, so mainly it was a choice (well, not a choice) of either secondary modern or grammar school, and the 11+ exam was used to determine which schools pupils would go to. Supposedly more academic children would be sent to grammar schools and everyone else would go to secondary modern.
In the 1960s, a Labour Government established the "comprehensive school" model nationally - these had been tried in some areas from the 1940s. The idea was that all children would go to the same schools, rather than divided between grammar and secondary modern. You had comprehensive secondary schools instead, with streaming by ability (probably subject by subject) within them. Labour's policy was that all local authorities should convert from the secondary/modern grammar system, and this led to the 11+ system disappearing in many areas, but not all. The next Conservative government abolished compulsion, but the momentum was such that the vast majority of grammar and secondary modern schools had been merged or closed and replaced by the mid-1970s, and most new schools were comprehensive.
However, in those few places where local authorities had resisted implementing the Labour directive long enough, the 11+ and grammar schools survived to see the Tories abolish compulsion, and in those places the 11+ has existed ever since, and so therefore have secondary modern and grammar schools.
So when people refer to grammar schools and secondary modern schools, they are referring to a class-divided education system, in which the supposedly more academically able (read: mainly middle class, but not exclusively because it was a test that got you there) went to grammar schools.
Note that some Grammar Schools are fee-paying private (i.e. "public") schools with that name. This may be because they chose to go independent rather than convert or close in the 1960s under Labour. Manchester Grammar School is an example.
Some Gramm
Mark E Smith, let it be noted, went to Stand Grammar School. Stand Grammar School was founded in 1688 but got into financial trouble and was taken over the local authority in 1908. There were separate schools for girls and boys (a common feature in many areas). But in 1979 Bury went comprehensive and the two grammar schools merged into Philips High School. "High Schools" is a name used for non-grammar secondary schools in some areas in Britain, but not all, often in places with a grammar tradition, as far as I can tell.
And thank you Dan for the information.
Also, he varies live between 'the sports teacher rules' and 'the sports teacher does rule', or occasionally 'the schoolteacher rules'. Anyway, 'rules' is the sense of it, which conjures for me the archetype of the tyrannical sports teacher. The line is buried on the record, and it does sound like something different, but I've no idea what 'sports teacher include' could even mean.