No Respects Rev.

Lyrics

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The Lords of the Senses (2)
Were coming up
Typical side road
It was fast and cold
It was fast and cold
On a day of old
Georgioso, (3)
Coming down!
Had to move
Had to move
No respect for G.B. (4)
No respect
For the lonesome cove (5)
No respect
Laughing you go
Fast and cold
You go on your roads
Censoring yourself 
Embracing your curtailment  (6)
The judge of your soul, God
We appreciate him (7)
In twelve years of repast

For twelve years in fast
For twelve years in fast
For twelve years in fast
For twelve years in fast
Respects
Going around
Reverberating
In eldritch and neon
In Georgioso's realm
The god and the dashed
Damned
In the words of...aaa...
In twelve years
Do you take
And set up in some cove 
Location in Whitby (8)
Engländer Schweinhund
Why are you here?
Why are you here?
Why are you here?

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Notes

1. This song was the subject of a very confusing paragraph in The Independent-- there it is implied that the song is the result of a contract that almost produced one of the oddest cultural pairings one could imagine--the Fall and the Twilight franchise. But recent evidence suggests that this may have been a journalist being sloppy, or anyway struggling to follow MES's train of thought at a pub, as whichever band member operates the Imperial Wax Twitter account says the song was "Cowboy George." This still needs to be discussed here, because it is just possible that whichever band member that is misremembers. But note that the Independent story doesn't actually say that "No Respects Rev" is the song in question, so it is by far the weaker evidence. 

To add to the confusion, MES's comments seem to fit this song--both lyrically and musically--better than they do "Cowboy George." It also has to be considered whether it's possible he recycled the story and tailored it to fit the song under discussion:

["Jetplane"] still pales before “No Respects Rev”. This turbo-charged, two-note riot of sound and vocal confusion is ripped open in the middle by a wordless collage of whimpers, shrieks and moans. No one treads the twilight zone of sense and sound like Smith, and rarely has he done it with as much power. He cackles. “Our publisher got this deal with that film Twilight. They said they'd give us $50,000 to come up with a song. So I said, I'll give them some horror…”

The contract dictated payment whether they used the song or not. They didn't, of course. “They don't know anything about horror, do they? It might frighten the children. But it is frightening, isn't it? I've fulfilled my bargain with Satan…” He clears his throat, leans forward, gesticulates. “There's no way they're going to put that in Twilight. But if they were good, they would. Orson Welles would've done it. It's horror.” He growls out the word, as if grinding it to dust. “Their horror is some guy like him” – he gestures to some young men behind us – “wandering through a forest with his eyes glazed.”

Note the pivot from "twilight zone of sense and sound" to Twilight. 

The lyrics are mysterious and hard to work out, and it is possible, in light of all this, that the horror angle is a red herring (however, see note 8 below). In any case, this is unfortunately one of those cases where the reader may get less help from me than she came here looking for.

Since the title is "No Respects," rather than "No Respect" (which Rodney Dangerfield made famous as a catchphrase), it is possible that the meaning of the phrase is a refusal to pay respects. Thus, if it is a vampire story, perhaps what is intended is that the vampires do not pay respects to those they kill, having no respect for them, or that it is inappropriate to pay respects to someone who is thought to be dead, because they are in fact now a vampire, and not really dead after all. 

The song first appears as an instrumental, simply entitled "No Respects," which opens Re-Mit. I assume "Rev." stands for "Revisited."

Of course MES's taste in horror runs more to Lovecraft than Twilight, and as Zack points out, "eldritch" is one of Lovecraft's favorite adjectives (like "gibbous," as Zack also mentions).

I have left various vampire references in the notes below, but of course this was kind fo a desperate gambit to begin with! The lyrics are rather impenetrable.

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2. "Lord of the Senses" is sometimes applied to Vishnu (the Indian city Rishikesh got its name from a reported theophany on the site; Rishikesh means "Lord of the Senses"). It seems to me this is more promising as a possible source for the phrase than it is as a clue to its meaning, however. Twilight vampires have enhanced perception, as is usual in such tales, and it is possible the appellation suggests something of that sort. As I suggested in note 1, however, I wouldn't bet the farm on it. 

It is also somewhat plausible to read Nietzschean themes into the lyrics; in that case we could read the "Lords" as something like the lords or nobles from the ancient world that Nietzsche describes in On The Genealogy of Morals, a type that recognizes itself as higher and more noble than its plebian counterpart, and showing "no respects" for those who "Go on your roads/Censuring yourself/Embracing your curtailment," which could be a description of the priestly type in Nietzsche. Furthermore, this would not be in contradiction with a vampire theme, since vampires in fiction often see themselves as a higher type living among bestial humans. If there is, indeed, any vampire connection at all (see note 1). It's easy to start seeing vampires when the suggestion has been made!
 
It has been suggested, however, that this is perhaps "The Lords of the census." This I doubt, but cannot refute... 

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3. With a few exceptions, such as this one, I have mostly followed the first attempt at a transcription, by the27points on the Fall online forum which has "geology of soul" here. Smith's diction is fast and slurred, but it definitely sounds more like "Georgioso" (or Giorgioso). Trying to get something to fit (in perhaps the most misguided way possible--see note 1!), I discovered that one of the first historical personages to be suspected of being a vampire, one Jure Grando who lived in the 17th century in what is now Croatia, was originally buried, and subsequently confronted (according to legend) by a priest named Giorgio. This opens up another possible interpretation of the song's title: "No Respects, Rev[erend]."

Dannyno writes in the comment section: "Vlad the Impaler (aka Dracula) was most probably imprisoned at Oratia for 12 years. There is a place in Romania called Giurgiu. There is a statue of Vlad there, and somewhere in the area he was killed. Or 'killed.'"

Dan reports that on the "Mighty Fall" Facebook page, a photograph appeared with sheet of paper in Smith's handwriting that reads, more or less:

 

NO, RESPEKTS

Theme proposed.

For 'Twilight'

film.

It was fantastical [or fantastico ) ]

(Androgonronsou [Androngenous?]

georgioso

it was getting cold

 

It is even--remotely--possible MES got "Georgioso" from here and is having us on (very unlikely, but not unprecedented). If that's the case we must abandon all hope!

Bazhdaddy suggests that "Georgioso" is St. George. From Wikipedia:


"In the book Dracula by Bram Stoker, evil things are said to occur on St. George's Day, beginning at midnight. The date of St. George's Day presented in the book, 5 May (on the Western Gregorian calendar), is St. George's Day as observed by the Eastern Orthodox churches of that era.

(Excerpt from Dracula, 1897) 'Do you know what day it is?' I answered that it was the fourth of May. She shook her head as she said again: 'Oh, yes! I know that, I know that! but do you know what day it is?' On my saying that I did not understand, she went on: 'It is the eve of St. George's Day. Do you not know that tonight, when the clock strikes midnight, all the evil things in the world will have full sway?'"

Note I have "judge of your soul" 13 lines down (around note 7), which may also be "Georgioso." 

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4.  Or "Judy," I guess; we had that for a few years. Both my ear and mind find "G.B." more likely, but it's hard to be sure. 

^

5. While this usage is now rare (except, apparently, in Australia), "cove" can mean a "chap," "fellow," or "dude."

However, this may mean a body of water (although it would be odd to have, or lack, respect for such), and perhaps even more specifically a cove in Whitby where Dracula made landing; see note 8 below.

Dan's comment comes pre-packaged with its own disclaimer:

"'The Secret of Lonesome Cove' is a 1912 novel by Samuel Hopkins Adams. I merely note the fact, which appears to be a red herring."

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6. See note 2 above. It has been suggested that "censuring" may be "censoring," which my ears tell me is entirely possible.  ^

 

7. This echoes the "he is not appreciated" refrain of "Hip Priest" and "New Big Priest."  

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8. Here we have a vampire connection: parts of Bram Stoker's classic horror story Dracula are set in Whitby, which is in Yorkshire. Dracula arrives in Whitby on a ship, having despatched the crew before landing. There is a "Smuggler's Cove" at Whitby. In 2012 there was a story in circulation about a real-life "Whitby Vampire" who had just arrived in town; the details of the story are the usual sort of thing, and no one seems to have taken it all that seriously.

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No Respects/No Respects Rev.: Fall Tracks A-Z

The Story of the Fall: 2013

 

The Tweet Re: Twilight and "Cowboy George":

 

Matt Melia‏ @DocMelia

@ImperialWaxBand Hello chaps. could you settle a fall related question for us? what was the track written for the Twilight film? was it one that ended up on Imperial Wax Solvent?

15:58 - 9. 2. 2019 od Lambeth, London

 

  1.  
    • Imperial Wax‏ @ImperialWaxBand 10. 2.

      Odpov?? uživateli @DocMelia

      We didn’t write it for the film. They wanted to use cowboy George exclusively for the film, meaning we would have to remove it from the album before it came out. Mark wasn’t keen.

    Note that "Cowboy George"  is on Your Future Our Clutter, not Imperial Wax Solvent.

Comments (35)

world's smallest midget
  • 1. world's smallest midget | 21/06/2013
I'm still skeptical of the Twilight story.
For one I'm not sure if The Fall are in particularly good standing with the Twilight fans, not to mention the fact that this is probably the least horrifying song on the album.

It's a good track though, innit?
Brendan
  • 2. Brendan | 07/08/2013
Some people think "Judy" is actually "G.B."

"No respects for G.B." could tie in with "Englander Schweinhund." But when I hear it it sounds like "Judy".
dannyno
  • 3. dannyno | 20/08/2013
Vlad the Impaler (aka Dracula) was most probably imprisoned at Oratia for 12 years

There is a place in Romania called Giurgiu. There is a statue of Vlad there, and somewhere in the area he was killed. Or "killed".

Dan
dannyno
  • 4. dannyno | 21/04/2014
There was a Judi Bowker who stars in a 1977 film adaptation of Dracula:
http://youtu.be/s_JK8uIywJM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_Dracula_(1977_film)

I did wonder if we might find some of the dialogue in the film, but...
bzfgt
  • 5. bzfgt | 23/04/2014
Yeah, and I still wonder if this vampire stuff isn't a red herring. I read somewhere else that a few of the Re-Mit songs were offered for the movie, not just this one. I have no idea whether it is even a theme in the lyrics, which are obscure and we don't even know what they are. I am hoping that some day there will be some kind of breakthrough with this one...
dannyno
  • 6. dannyno | 24/04/2014
According to MES in his "British Masters" interview with John Doran, it was instrumentals that were submitted for the movie.
SM
  • 7. SM | 06/07/2014
Two things regarding note 5:

1. The 'lonesome cove' may be in line with the Whitby line (as you have it in note 8) and the idea of 'paying respects to a body of water,' a cove in the sense of a body of water, may be metonymy. The person is located in Whitby, Smuggler's Cove stands in for Whitby, The Cove itself then stands in/refers to the 'vampire'. I would not put it past Smith to 'naturally' use language in this way, which may seem convoluted to some.

2. The reason I thought about this possibility is that it makes sense. But also it came to mind as I thought about the usage of 'cove'. Being Australian, I've never heard anyone use the word 'cove' in the archaic sense mentioned in note 5.
dannyno
  • 8. dannyno | 07/05/2015
"The Secret of Lonesome Cove" is a 1912 novel by Samuel Hopkins Adams. I merely note the fact, which appears to be a red herring.
harleyr
  • 9. harleyr | 08/12/2016
For Georgio's soul I hear...
Judge Your Souls realm

which might fit in with the vampire/horror theme.
bzfgt
  • 10. bzfgt | 27/12/2016
That might be right, Harley, I'm really unsure of this song and it bugs the hell out of me. I feel like we need some evidence from MES or something. It could be "Judge of your soul, come on down!" which would be kind of a cool line. But it does sound more like "Giorgio" to me, as baffling as that is. It's the vowel--it's much more "o" than "u." Of course with the way he pronounces things it could be anything, really. I'm going to listen to this a few times and see if I can justify changing it to "judge of your soul."

By the way, this song really, really kicks ass...I haven't listened to it in a while and it is really hitting me hard right now!
bzfgt
  • 11. bzfgt | 27/12/2016
OK, the last time he says it I here "judge." That's enough for me (for now), I going to get that damned "Giorgio" out of here! Now awaiting approval or correction or rebuke or more avowals of confusion from my readers...
bzfgt
  • 12. bzfgt | 27/12/2016
The more I listen to it the righter it sounds. That "Giorgio" has been driving me crazy for 4 years now, thank you Harley!!!
Zack
  • 13. Zack | 28/12/2016
"Rev" almost certainly stands for "Revisited." See also: "And This Day (Revisited)", a 1997 live recording included on the Expanded Edition of Hex.
bzfgt
  • 14. bzfgt | 04/01/2017
Yeah I thought "revisited" was the only thing it could be, in fact I didn't realize it needed a note since it seemed so transparently that. That happens often, something doesn't even jump out at me as in question but on closer examination it could arguably have a note.
bzfgt
  • 15. bzfgt | 04/01/2017
I don't know where my CD is. Is it "No Respects Rev." or "No Respects rev."? Wikipedia doesn't have a capital letter but Discogs does. Or is it different in two different spots or something?
bzfgt
  • 16. bzfgt | 04/01/2017
Oh, sorry, I actually already did say that in the notes! I just took from your post that I didn't.
dannyno
  • 17. dannyno | 06/01/2017
This has been posted on the Facebook "Mighty Fall" page:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155032333548115&set=gm.1207451295957931&type=3&theater

It's a picture of a piece of paper in MES' handwriting, reading:


NO, RESPEKTS

Theme proposed.

For 'Twilight'

film.

It was fantastical [or fantastico ) ]

(Androgonronsou [Androngenous?]

georgioso

it was getting cold
bzfgt
  • 18. bzfgt | 28/01/2017
Ha! We'd just changed to "judge of your soul" and I was feeling a bit settled about it. Christ. I am not sure but that one of them does not say "judge of your soul," if I recall correctly there was only one that really sounded like it convincingly. If so that will never be figured out, unless--or I guess especially if-- there's a green lyrics book in the works.
bzfgt
  • 19. bzfgt | 28/01/2017
I cannot see the page, by the way, maybe it's a national thing. It says:

Sorry, this content isn't available right now
The link you followed may have expired, or the page may only be visible to an audience you're not in.
bzfgt
  • 20. bzfgt | 28/01/2017
There's no Twilight character named Georgioso that I can find, and it doesn't mean anything in Italian, at least not spelled that way.
Zack
  • 21. Zack | 06/03/2017
"Eldritch," like "gibbous" and "unutterable," is yet another one of HP Lovecraft's favorite words: http://arkhamarchivist.com/wordcount-lovecraft-favorite-words/.
bzfgt
  • 22. bzfgt (link) | 19/03/2017
It certainly is.
dannyno
  • 23. dannyno | 20/03/2017
Note #19:

Here's the image for those who can't see it in Facebook:

Image
Brendan
  • 24. Brendan | 23/10/2017
I remember MES chuckling while talking about Re-Mit, saying something along the lines of "I'll show them real horror."

It seems like Smith is annoyed at the fact that today's filmmakers/audiences pay "no respects" to the original grim horror of Bram Stoker's Dracula and subsequent vampire fantasy by peddling such saccharine tripe as the Twilight franchise. The proponents of this modern spin on Vampirism are indeed embracing the curtailment of imagination and overlooking what smith considered real horror. I'm inclined to believe the Twilight soundtrack story at this point.

Georgioso (Dracula wasn't a real name either) is perhaps a vampire successor to Dracula still creeping about in England, and you disappreciate him at your mortal peril.

I agree with the Australian commenter who said that the "lonesome cove" in Whitby (where Dracula's ship ran aground in the novel) is a metonym referring to Dracula mythology as a whole.
bzfgt
  • 25. bzfgt (link) | 18/11/2017
Yeah on second/third thoughti now lean strongly toward that meaning of "lonesome cove."
Bazhdaddy
  • 26. Bazhdaddy | 26/08/2018
I'm sure it must have been suggested before, but I can't see it above, that the first line could be "Lords of the Censors" . Before about 1970 all performances of plays in Britain had to be pre-approved and censored by the Lord Chamberlain. And I hear, "who are coming up, typical, on a side road"

*"On the day of old Georgioso" Possibly a reference to St George's Day? (Greek name - Georgios). The patron saint of England, lots of contentious history about celebrating the saints day, 23rd April. "In Georgioso's realm" makes more sense in the last verse in this context.

I agree that "no respect for Judy" is in fact "no respects for G.B." - either meaning the poor reception to previous LP Ersatz GB or to point above that those who spurn celebrating St George's Day are seen by right-wing press as unpatriotic, indeed traitorous to Great Britain.

I hear "Do you think And set up some cove" as "Do you take and turn-up in some cove location in Whitby"
*Not noticeably relevant to song but thematically worth mentioning that Smith-favourite Arthur Machen spent time in Whitby, he wrote a story inspired by the place and there is a commemorative plaque on a hotel there https://openplaques.org/plaques/41753
http://liminalwhitby.blogspot.com/2012/07/machens-happy-children.html
bzfgt
  • 27. bzfgt (link) | 01/09/2018
Yeah, right now I lean towards "Lords of the Census," but until someone finds handwritten lyrics this is yet another thing that can't be properly be adjudicated...it does sound like it could be "Censors." I hear "cynical," not "difficult." I said that before looking at what I had, so as not to prejudice myself. Now that I read it I hear "typical," after listening 3 more times. Who knows? It doesn't sound like "difficult" to me though. Now the 4th time I thought "cynical" again. I think this is because it's "cypical."

And if the Lord(s) was a censor, why "Lords of the Censors?"

You may be right but this is difficult, late Fall is proving to be a hotbed of insoluble mysteries.

As for "who were coming up," I am pretty sure your mind is filling in a word it thinks should be there, as I don't hear a hint of a word before "were."

I think "GB" is likely, based on what I would expect him to say. I am changing that, now that I listened I think I hear it now too. I hope I'm not doing what you did with "who."

I agree with "take," but I hear "set up," certainly not "turn up."

And, there is no "judge of your soul's realm," I don't know how that made it this far. It seems certainly "Georgioso's realm"; there would never have been a question, of course, if we were sure of the first "Georgioso"...man, these vocals.

Absolutely mind-blowingly great track, though....thanks for giving me an occasion to listen to it.
Bazhdaddy
  • 28. Bazhdaddy | 08/09/2018
More on "old Georgioso" possibly meaning St George - there is a St George's Day/Dracula crossover - from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_George%27s_Day

"In the book Dracula by Bram Stoker, evil things are said to occur on St. George's Day, beginning at midnight. The date of St. George's Day presented in the book, 5 May (on the Western Gregorian calendar), is St. George's Day as observed by the Eastern Orthodox churches of that era.
(Excerpt from Dracula, 1897) "Do you know what day it is?" I answered that it was the fourth of May. She shook her head as she said again: "Oh, yes! I know that, I know that! but do you know what day it is?" On my saying that I did not understand, she went on: "It is the eve of St. George's Day. Do you not know that tonight, when the clock strikes midnight, all the evil things in the world will have full sway?"

The Whitby Goth festival ("Eldritch & neon"?) is held on or around St George's day
dannyno
  • 29. dannyno | 11/09/2018
The Whitby Goth Weekend is held twice a year. This year the dates are 12-14 April and 26-28 October. And st George's Day was 23 April. I think some years the weekend and St George's Day coincide, but I don't think it's deliberately close. Not that the suggestion is implausible, given the contents of the book, but it just doesn't seem to be confirmed by reality.
dannyno
  • 30. dannyno | 13/12/2018
The sheet of lyrics has popped up again on Facebook. Posted by someone going by the name "Nolan Nolan". It was from the Sydney gig, 2015.
bzfgt
  • 31. bzfgt (link) | 27/04/2019
As in More Information above, for a few months now this site has been imposing weird spacing on me, which totally sucks. Sometimes I can fix it manually but it's time-consuming and I don't always notice.
ekalexm
  • 32. ekalexm | 29/01/2020
I'm hearing "for 12 years....infest"?
bzfgt
  • 33. bzfgt (link) | 01/02/2020
Could be, "fast" is complemented by "repast" but with his diction it's hard to be sure. I'll listen to it, others maybe can do the same and we'll reconvene.
Clive at the Witch Trials
  • 34. Clive at the Witch Trials | 30/06/2020
If Smith married Elena in 2000/2001 then is 12 yrs a ref to their marriage - perhaps feeling the itch re Brix and ROD - maybe you haven't got everyhting that you want after all
Tim Cumming
  • 35. Tim Cumming (link) | 21/04/2024
"recent evidence suggests that this may have been a journalist being sloppy, or anyway struggling to follow MES's train of thought at a pub"
I am said journalist, and I was not confused at all - or being sloppy, fuck you very much. It's verbatim conversation on tape with Mark, and what he said is what he said and what I wrote down in the transcript and resulting article. Imperial Wax heard another story from Mark, maybe, for Markish reasons. That article was a record of what Mark said, about that song and about Twilight and it is perfectly clear, even to sloppy readers.

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