Look, Know

Lyrics

(1)

Do y'know what you look like
Before you go out?

But I say happy memories
Leave a bitter taste     (2)
I need a good brainwash agent
To cut out this present shout of:

Do y'know what you look like
Before you go out?

That's why you eat crap food
That's why nobody talks to you
That's why you messed up everything you do

Do y'know what you look like
Before you go out?
Look Know
Look

He was the first one to wear a flying jacket and go to a club
And she has the general policy of not being seen dead in a pub
Straight-leg jeans when she goes out
There's a microbe attached to their brains that itches
And gives a morning shout

Do y'know what you look like
Before you go out?

But I say happy memories leave a bitter taste
I got a prison in me
Our bodies weren't made for times like these
I always have a wash
And that's enough

Do y'know what you look like
Before you go out?

You gotta know what you look like nowadays
Before you go out
Or some existential crap will write about you
They say don't drink alcohol!
You gotta know what you look like, oh!
Before you go out
Know, look, look

But I say get it down yer neck
Ein beer
And I will you and you attack attack
Pure Sartre food (3)
Catchment club   (4)

Do y'know what you look like
Before you go out?

With all the fashions you filched off faggots
With all the fashions you filched off faggots (5)

Do y'know what you look like
Before you go out?

Here's health!

Zip, zip!  (6)

 

Notes

1. The version on Hip Priests and Kamerads begins with the same keyboard introduction and spoken words that starts "Fortress" on Hex Enduction Hour, and a similar keyboard riff appears on the first part of "The Man Whose Head Expanded."

The riff is a preset beat on the Casio VL tone keyboard. The same riff appears in "Da da da ich lieb dich nicht du liebst mich nicht aha aha aha" ("Da Da Da I Don't Love You You Don't Love Me Aha Aha Aha") by the band Trio. They were associated with Neue Deutsche Welle (German New Wave), but reportedly they preferred to call their style Neue Deutsch Frölichkeit, or "New German Cheerfulness." "Da Da Da" was a number 2 hit in the UK in 1982 (thanks to nochmal in the comment section of "The Man Whose Head Expanded" for bringing this to my attention). "Da Da Da" came out not long before the appearence of Hex Enduction Hour.

Marc Riley on Twitter: "my guitar outbursts on Look, Know based on Candyskin." "Candyskin" is a 1981 song by Fire Engines, a Scottish post-punk outfit.

Dan: The press handout for Hex Enduction Hour contains a "next single announcement", which says of "Look, Know":

 

a new version of a fairly old song recorded using the same technique as 'And This Day'. Lyric is a schizo rant, spawned in the U.S., where many groups are becoming male go-go dancers

According to Paul Hanley, this was originally called "Know Look" (Have a Bleedin Guess p. 38).

From Dan:

Paul Hanley, Have a Bleedin Guess, p.142
 


Although 'Look, Know' was the only song committed to tape at both of the sessions that made up Hex Enduction Hour's recording, it wasn't included on the final album. Instead it was released as a stand-alone single a month after Hex.



p.143-144:

 

The lyric shows Mark as his most schizophrenic - he takes the part of both the person being criticised and the one dishing out the disparagement, so the song ends up as an argument with himself. Though the first break is more generally directed at fashion obsessives, the bulk of the lyric takes the form of an imaginary conversation between Mark and the rest of the group, which explains Marc's prominent role. Semi-serious critiques of what we ate and and what we chose to wear were fairly commonplace at the time, and the answer to the question 'Do you know what you look like?' is printed on the back of the sleeve - 'These boys obviously do not'. Mark was fully aware that such criticisms were easy enough to direct back at him, which is why in the lyric you're never sure which voice is his. As the lyric evolved there were some changes to disguise this - The Peel version's 'That's why you messed up the interview' is changed to 'everything you do' on the single.

^

2.  Zack submits:

"In a letter to Tony Friel dated 25.1.77 (recently shared on The Mighty Fall Facebook group), MES listed 'Happy Memories and a Bitter Taste(Really!)' as one of 'The OUTSIDER GROUP'"s unrecorded songs."

The Fall originally called themselves The Outsiders until they learned the name was taken.

See also "H.O.W." and "Gramme Friday."

^

3. Jean-Paul Sartre (1905-1980) was a French philosopher not known for cleanliness or sartorial elegance, but it may be he who is referred to in the line "some existential crap will write about you."

^

4. A "catchment area" seems to be an area from which a rugby club may recruit. This lingo is used in multiple countries. Maddeningly, while there are many references to "catchment clubs" on the internet, I haven't found one that explains what one is, but the general idea is like a farm team, I think. From the site for an Australian club:

Broncos catchment? 

The catchment area for the Charleswood Broncos is north of McGillivray Blvd, south of the Assiniboine River, west of Route #90, and east of the Perimeter Hwy, as well as South Headingley from Wilkes Avenue to Assiniboine River. All players living or attending a school within these boundaries can register for football with the Charleswood Broncos.  If you are outside this catchment area, please check MMFA website for catchment club.

^

5. From Dan:

On the back of the "Look, Know" single is the following text: "HE was the first one to wear a harlequin type jacket and go to a club; and SHE has a general policy of not being seen dead in a pub Straight leg jeans when she goes out, there's a microbe attached to their brains which itches and gives a morning shout. Do y'know what you look like before you go out. All fashions are Filched off faggots, then, TWO OR MORE YEARS LATER .....

^

6. According to Hexen Blumenthal, this "might be an acknowledgement of the resemblance to the bass part of 'No Zip' by The Immortal Invisibles." "No Zip" seems to be 50% of the Invisibles' output, as it is the B side of their only single ("Classical Music" is the A side, and it's harder than "No Zip"--i.e., impossible--to find online).

^

More Information

Look, Know: Fall Tracks A-Z

 

MES to Tony Friel:

Comments (35)

Joseph Mullaney
  • 1. Joseph Mullaney | 13/07/2014
Marc Riley sings prominently on this, which is probably why MES refused to allow it to be reissued.
nairng
  • 2. nairng | 07/09/2015
The title may refer to Lucknow, an Indian city significant to the history of the British Raj...
Chout
  • 3. Chout | 05/05/2016
Love this site! Just dove head first into the world of The Fall and have been referring daily to this site for weeks, so thank you!
bzfgt
  • 4. bzfgt | 24/06/2016
Thanks for reading, Chout, and if you have any corrections or suggestions those are always welcome.
dannyno
  • 5. dannyno | 04/03/2017
"Catchment club"

A "catchment club" seems to be a thing, certainly in rugby and other sports, something to do with regional talent spotting maybe?
Martin
  • 6. Martin | 21/03/2017
Re: "Catchment club". I'm unconvinced by the above explanations re rugby clubs. The term seems to be used more in Australia than in other countries. The more common term in England is surely "catchment area". In any case, I doubt that MES knows too much about rugby: it doesn't feature anywhere else in his lyrics, as far as I know.
dannyno
  • 7. dannyno | 21/03/2017
Yeah, it is a bit of a thin connection, to be honest.
bzfgt
  • 8. bzfgt (link) | 23/03/2017
Also Canada, Martin. It may be thin but right now it's the only usage of "catchment club" anyone knows about, so I am not as skeptical as you guys are. Which isn't to say I'm confident it's right, I just wouldn't quite say "thin."
dannyno
  • 9. dannyno | 08/08/2017
On the book of the "Look, Know" single is the following text, which is close but not the same as part of the sung lyric:


HE was the first one to wear a harlequin type jacket and go to a club;
and SHE has a general policy of not being seen dead in a pub
Straight leg jeans when she goes out, there's a microbe attached to their
brains which itches and gives a morning shout. Do y'know what you look like
before you go out. All fashions are Filched off faggots, then, TWO OR MORE YEARS LATER .....
dannyno
  • 10. dannyno | 20/09/2017
"On the book" should have been "On the back". Oops. And now the error is in the notes! Oh no!
bzfgt
  • 11. bzfgt (link) | 07/10/2017
Yes I suppose I should think about what I'm typing.
bzfgt
  • 12. bzfgt (link) | 07/10/2017
Or pasting, anyway.
dannyno
  • 13. dannyno | 24/02/2018
https://twitter.com/marcrileydj/status/966818467897802752

On Twitter, 22/2/22018, Marc Riley recalls:

Marc Rileymy guitar outbursts on Look Know based on Candyskin.


Candyskin is a song by the Fire Engines.
Hexen Blumenthal
  • 14. Hexen Blumenthal | 27/02/2018
Smith can be heard muttering "zip zip! at the end of this which might be ab acknowledgement to the resemblance to the bass part of "No Zip" by The Immortal Invisibles.
bzfgt
  • 15. bzfgt (link) | 10/03/2018
Yeah, there is a "zip, zip" and a bass-line resemblance, good.
dannyno
  • 16. dannyno | 02/04/2018
The press handout for Hex Enduction Hour contains a "next single announcement", which says of Look, Know:

a new version of a fairly old song recorded using the same technique as 'And This Day'. Lyric is a schizo rant, spawned in the U.S., where many groups are becoming male go-go dancers
John Reardon
  • 17. John Reardon | 22/07/2018
Re comment 14 - if this is correct, it's a back-handed compliment at best as I can recall MES dismissing the Immortal Invisibles as "art shit" in a fanzine interview (don't recall the name - sorry).

I think it's far more plausible that this was a good-natured tip of the hat to one-time fellow Rough Trade artistes, the Cult Figures, and their classic 7", Zip Nolan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4k5WRJjhpI

The backing for this gem was provided by Swell Maps and MES was renowned to be a massive Swell Maps fan, so who knows....
bzfgt
  • 18. bzfgt (link) | 29/07/2018
But the bass line does resemble "No Zip" a little bit, and MES doesn't necessarily have to compliment them for that to be the case. I like Zip Nolan as much as the next guy but it's harder to connect with this.
bzfgt
  • 19. bzfgt (link) | 29/07/2018
I don't think either connection is anything like iron-clad, mind you. "Zip zip" isn't sung in either song.
Antoine
  • 20. Antoine | 16/08/2018
The connection is a bit feeble, but regarding the "Flying Jacket in a club" line, I noticed the following in Lou Reed's Sally Can't Dance:
"She was the first girl in the neighborhood
To wear tied-dyed pants, like she should
She was the first girl that I've ever seen
That had flowers painted on her jeans"
bzfgt
  • 21. bzfgt (link) | 25/08/2018
Yeah, that's tantalizing but not quite there I think...
Simon Lout
  • 22. Simon Lout | 14/12/2018
RE: CATCHMENT AREA. In the UK at this time catchment area usually referred to the area where a school drew it's pupils from. Where you lived determined which school you attended - the nearest usually. As this song refers to a certain type who attends certain types of nightclubs maybe it refers to a nightclub that attracts a specific type of local clientele ?
Simon Lout
  • 23. Simon Lout | 14/12/2018
RE: CATCHMENT CLUB comment above.. and comments 5, 6, 7 & 8. The song is a "veiled" comment/complaint about scene-jumpers/hipsters/poseurs - Punks/New Romantics/Goths in late '70s - early '80's UK. Same today of course !
bzfgt
  • 24. bzfgt (link) | 19/01/2019
Yeah it seems to cast a dim eye on the sceney, agreed
dannyno
  • 25. dannyno | 27/12/2019
The song was originally titled Know Look (Paul Hanley. Have a Bleedin Guess, p.38).
dannyno
  • 26. dannyno | 28/12/2019
Paul Hanley, Have a Bleedin Guess, p.142


Although 'Look, Know' was the only song committed to tape at both of the sessions that made up Hex Enduction Hour's recording, it wasn't included on the final album. Instead it was released as a stand-alone single a month after Hex.


p.143-144:

The lyric shows Mark as his most schizophrenic - he takes the part of both the person being criticised and the one dishing out the disparagement, so the song ends up as an argument with himself. Though the first break is more generally directed at fashion obsessives, the bulk of the lyric takes the form of an imaginary conversation between Mark and the rest of the group, which explains Marc's prominent role. Semi-serious critiques of what we ate and and what we chose to wear were fairly commonplace at the time, and the answer to the question 'Do you know what you look like?' is printed on the back of the sleeve - 'These boys obviously do not'. Mark was fully aware that such criticisms were easy enough to direct back at him, which is why in the lyric you're never sure which voice is his. As the lyric evolved there were some changes to disguise this - The Peel version's 'That's why you messed up the interview' is changed to 'everything you do' on the single.
bzfgt
  • 27. bzfgt (link) | 04/01/2020
Interesting remarks, I feel like he does that a lot. Hip Priest is I guess a good example where he sort of identifies with the character, and sort of makes fun of him.
John Pickles
  • 28. John Pickles (link) | 20/05/2020
On the line 'I was always have a wash'

I've always heard it as 'I always have a uh-arm wash' as in underarm wash?

However the version I've got is from Psykik DanceHall compilation but I think it's the same version
John Pickles
  • 29. John Pickles (link) | 21/05/2020
Sorry the version I have is Look Know
(cut version from the Band on Wall/Bury Derby Hall bonus CD)
bzfgt
  • 30. bzfgt (link) | 21/06/2020
Hmm, Peel is just "wash"
Zack
  • 31. Zack | 27/07/2020
In a letter to Tony Friel dated 25.1.77 (recently shared on The Mighty Fall Facebook group), MES listed "Happy Memories and a Bitter Taste(Really!)" as one of "The OUTSIDER GROUP"s unrecorded songs.
bzfgt
  • 32. bzfgt (link) | 02/08/2020
Any more context for "The Outsider Group?" Just whimsy?
dannyno
  • 33. dannyno | 04/08/2020
Comments #31 and #32.

The letter is posted here: https://slangking.wordpress.com/1977/01/25/the-outsiders-group-output-kraft/

https://slangking.files.wordpress.com/2019/03/1977-01-25-outsiders.jpg
dannyno
  • 34. dannyno | 04/08/2020
"The Outsiders", of course, was the original name of the group until it was realised there was already a band with that name.
dannyno
  • 35. dannyno | 04/08/2020

Our bodies weren't made for times like these


Bit of a Beach Boys vibe here? (cf I Just Wasn't Made for These Times)

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