Cheetham Hill

Lyrics

(1)

Mike Bennett: See the fleet of cruising cars
go past the stations and the bars.
Never stop to get out 
in case they choose to cruise about. (2)

MES: Well, I tell you, that boy,
he stopped up at the station.
He must be on a mission of passion
Couldn't make out whether he was from
Salford or...ah... Manchester.

And this London visitor had this to say: (3)

MB: Cheater
Cheetham Hill.

MES: Only way you stop is for passion at the station.
Why you cruising? To be unfaithful. 
You want to settle up, you want to settle down. 
And some man really hurt you. 
He isn't around in Cheetham.  
Cheat 'em. You cheated.

Well I tell you, 
That boy, he stopped up at the station.
He must be on a mission of passion.

MB: Cheater.
Cheetham Hill.

MES: Where you going, boy? Are you cheatin'?
Is that why you come from Cheetham Hill?
When you stopped up at the station 
was it an excuse to get away from your wife for the evening?

MES: Couldn't make out whether he was from
MB: Max or Mary...
MES: Salford or...ah...Manchester 
MB: Chutney ferret (4)
MES: And this London visitor had this to say
MB: customised, intentional 

MB: Cheater
Cheetham
Cheetham Hill

MB: there's no need to go berserk
you don't scratch my nice blue Merc (5)
I won't need to go berserk 
if you don't scratch my nice green Merc

MES:And the boy stopped up
At the passion wagon (6)
We couldn't make out where he was from
Salford or, uh, Manchester
And this London visitor had this to say

 

 

Notes

1. Much of this is sung by producer Mike Bennett, who is credited with co-writing the song. Cheetham Hill is an area between Manchester city and Prestwich. The theme, indicated by the pun on "Cheetham/Cheat 'Em," is people cruising the area looking for extra-marital sex; according to Martin, Cheetham Hill was a well known red light district at the time. In Renegade, by way of defending The Light User Syndrome which he acknowledges is in some respects "a whiskey rash of an album," MES mentions that he is often approached by fans who dig this song.  

Bennett, who co-produced The Light User Syndrome and Cerebral Caustic, also co-wrote "The Chiselers," "Pearl City," and "Masquerade." 

Doc submits:

From The Big Issue, Aug. 8, 1996:

"One of the tracks on the new album is called Cheetham Hill, which for the benefit of readers further afield, is an inner-city area of north Manchester...I’m new to all this so tell me about Cheetham Hill, Mark. Do you spend a lot of time there?

'Not if I can help it, no,' he replies. 'You see these middle class drivers going up and down Cheetham Hill Road in their big cars. They’re just slumming it. You can see it has a reputation, but it’s a lot safer than…' he peers at me intently, ‘where do you live?”"

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2. This line always strikes me as funny, in its ominous tone.   

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3.Who is this myserious visitor? Martin finds:

13 May 1997 Jilly's Rockworld, Manchester: [i]- "And this London visitor had this to say: his name was Simon Spencer."

So at least for that night, we have an answer. This doesn't necessarily mean that's who it was written for, or who MES thinks of every time he sings it, of course. Simon Spencer produced some songs with MES in this era, and is presumably the subject of "Spencer Must Die."

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4. Chutney ferret is slang for a homosexual male; the ever-reliable Urban DIctionary helpfully adds that it can also mean a ferret that works at a chutney factory.  

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5. A Mercedes Benz. From  Simon Wolstencroft's You Can Drum But You Can't Hide (thanks to Dan):

"A couple of weeks after the break, Mark rang me to ask if I would come over to his house later that afternoon to witness the signing of the band’s new record contract with Jet Records, a name I was familiar with from my sister's ELO collection. As Mark was putting the kettle on, our new record label boss pulled up outside the house in a huge blue Mercedes (referenced in the song ‘Cheetham Hill’), and on entering he introduced himself. His name was Frank Lea, he was briefly a second drummer in glam rock band Slade and had once run Trojan Records."

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6. This can mean a motor vehicle, often a van, that is, or is intended to be, used as a venue for sexual relations.  

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Comments (15)

npru
  • 1. npru | 26/01/2014
At the time this song was written parts of Cheetham Hill, were well known as a red light area, so the 'Cheater' was probably looking for a prostitute.

He would be cruising round in his Mercedes, not his Ford Mercury (which was not a UK model)
dannyno
  • 2. dannyno | 04/12/2014
"nice blue Merc"

From Simon Wolstencroft's "You Can Drum But You Can't Hide":

"A couple of weeks after the break, Mark rang me to ask if I would come over to his house later that afternoon to witness the signing of the band’s new record contract with Jet Records, a name I was familiar with from my sister's ELO collection. As Mark was putting the kettle on, our new record label boss pulled up outside the house in a huge blue Mercedes (referenced in the song ‘Cheetham Hill’), and on entering he introduced himself. His name was Frank Lea, he was briefly a second drummer in glam rock band Slade and had once run Trojan Records."

Dan
Martin
  • 3. Martin | 03/03/2017
13 May 1997 Jilly's Rockworld, Manchester:

- "And this London visitor had this to say: his name was Simon Spencer." (amended lyrics to "Cheetham Hill")

Probably not about Simon Spencer at all, but it's always good to muddy the waters!
bzfgt
  • 4. bzfgt (link) | 19/03/2017
You're really digging out the live comments!
bzfgt
  • 5. bzfgt (link) | 19/03/2017
Zack, what was the song on which you wrote the DOSE information? I may have to fix a few notes, I can't remember what the upshot was--is the other guy DOSE?
jensotto
  • 6. jensotto | 01/04/2019
BBC Genome has 3 options: Howard Jacobson (of CH) reading from Peeping Tom in 1984.
Older: Xmas from Bethesda and this map of Manchester https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/4521505834784c87806b89666b73cad0
Doc
  • 7. Doc | 22/04/2019
From the Bis Issue 1997

'One of the tracks on the new album is called Cheetham Hill, which for the benefit of readers further afield, is an inner-city area of north Manchester. The song contains the puzzling couplet, “There’s no need to go berserk, if you don’t scratch my nice blue Merc”. I’m new to all this so tell me about Cheetham Hill, Mark. Do you spend a lot of time there?

“Not if I can help it, no,” he replies. “You see these middle class drivers going up and down Cheetham Hill Road in their big cars. They’re just slumming it. You can see it has a reputation, but it’s a lot safer than…” he peers at me intently, ‘where do you live?”'
dannyno
  • 8. dannyno | 13/05/2019
Comment #7 - that should be "Big Issue", just in case.
dannyno
  • 9. dannyno | 13/05/2019
Comment #7 - that should be "Big Issue", just in case.
bzfgt
  • 10. bzfgt (link) | 28/06/2019
Usable--but what is the Big Issue? Is this online? I can't find the issue via Google. What number/volume is it?
dannyno
  • 11. dannyno | 30/06/2019
"The Big Issue" is a magazine sold by the homeless.

Doc misdated it.

It's this:

Sean Smith, "Smith and Nonesense", Big Issue in the North, August 8 1996, p 12-13.
http://thefall.org/gigography/96aug08.html
Geoff curry
  • 12. Geoff curry | 03/09/2021
Sounds like Ace spedding
Rob
  • 13. Rob | 11/06/2022
For what it's worth, I have always heard: "that boy who stopped at the bus station".
dannyno
  • 14. dannyno | 19/08/2022
Julia Adamson and Mike Bennett, interviewed by Daryl Easlea for the sleevenotes to the 2022 Iconoclassic Records remastered edition of The Light User Syndrome (p12):


Julia: We'd rehearsed at Cheetham Hill. It was OK, I remember trying a few parts and ideas. The song's lyrics were apparently related to this and I recall programming this song up with Simon.

Mike: We were going through Cheetham Hill witnessing the curb crawlers. A lot of it was written in cards, on tape. Mark was always very observant...
dannyno
  • 15. dannyno | 19/08/2022
p13, another bit from Mike Bennett:


Mike: Well, it's a small vignette, Mark wanted someone to play a punter, a Londoner, visiting for a casual encounter.

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