Terry Waite Sez

Lyrics

Terry Waite Sez (1)
Terry Waite Sez
Terry Waite Sez
Give us a ring, give us a ring kid
Mister Big
Sounding sour and frustrated
With the pressure of his own life.

 

Terry Waite Sez
Terry Waite Sez
What are those trees 
Painted white jobs
Silvered something
Silvered something  (2)

50 plus 
Out to heal provincial pus
Let the real reverend walk
He says and does

He plans but they won't let him in
 

Terry Waite Sez
Terry Waite!

Notes

1. Terry Waite is an English author and charity organizer who was Assistant for Anglican Communion Affairs to the Archbishop of Canterbury in the 1980s. He negotioated the release of hostages in Iran, Libya and Lebanon in the 80s, and was himself taken hostage in Beirut and held from 1987 (a few months after the Fall sonf was released) until 1991. From Reformation:

"In a radio interview with Steve Barker (On The Wire, BBC Radio Lancashire; date sometime in 1986), there is the following exchange:
 
MES: '[Waite is]a very impressive guy...he flies around and does absolutely nothing...actually when I wrote it...I made this great tune...and I had no lyrics whatsoever...and there was this bloke in the pub and the things he came out with, you couldn't believe it!...and his name was Terry Waite!...'
 
Steve Barker: 'So it's not really about the Terry Waite, the archbishops' emissary, it's this bloke you met in the pub...'
 
MES: 'Yeah.'
 
Despite MES claiming here that he wrote the music, Brix Smith is also on record (and more widely believed) to have done so."
 
MES says something almost identical in the debut issue of LM.
  

Here's Brix flogging her autobiography in Louder Than War:

 
I believe that Mark is a psychic. He’s written songs about things that came to pass later. I quite a spiritual person. I also believe that I’m a psychic. I believe that he and I connect on multi levels. I believe that everything is vibrational based. We could talk about that all day. I hear things in my head. I’m not nuts. Maybe I am nuts. (Laughs). Where does inspiration come from? You tell me. I hear in my head this song is called ‘Terry Waite Sez’. I hand the song to Mark. I tell him it HAS to be called ‘Terry Waite Sez’. At this point Terry Waite was the envoy to the Archbishop of Canterbury. We record the song. He ends up getting kidnapped. The song is released. Then his family call Beggars Banquet record company. They believe there might be clues in the lyrics as to where he’s being held. That was one instance but there were many more.
 

See comment #7 below for more.

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2. Martin:

What - if any - connection these lines: "What are those trees /Painted white jobs" have with Terry Waite I do not know, but it should be pointed out that painting the bottom part of tree trunks is a long-established technique for protecting trees, including the prevention of cracking and splitting of new bark. Googling will take anyone to a lot of information and debate on the subject.

I'm intrigued and baffled, while looking at the lyrics of this song, of the words "Silvered something". What could Mark E Smith mean by this?

 

I think Dan answers this well--it's a continuation of the dialogue, an answer to the previous question, "What are those trees?" I.e., the speaker may be thinking of silver birches or something like that...

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Comments (12)

Martin
  • 1. Martin | 12/02/2016
What - if any - connection these lines: "What are those trees /Painted white jobs" have with Terry Waite I do not know, but it should be pointed out that painting the bottom part of tree trunks is a long-established technique for protecting trees, including the prevention of cracking and splitting of new bark. Googling will take anyone to a lot of information and debate on the subject.

I'm intrigued and baffled, while looking at the lyrics of this song, of the words "Silvered something". What could Mark E Smith mean by this?
Ian Edmond
  • 2. Ian Edmond | 13/02/2016
Could "Mr Big" actually be "Mr Begin"? Sounds a bit like it to me...
dannyno
  • 3. dannyno | 23/02/2016
MES quote from the pilot issue of LM magazine (given away free with Crash, December 1986), dated January 1987, p.25:

http://pitchandputtproductions.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/mark-e-smith-interview-from-1986.html


Terry Waite Sez isn't about the Terry Waite, although I do dislike him intensely; we were in this pub in Stockport and there was this drunk there called Terry Waite and I noted down all the things he was saying and used them for the song.


So it's not just the Steve Barker interview where he says this.
bzfgt
  • 4. bzfgt | 19/03/2016
I think it's "Big--eh" but you may be right...
dannyno
  • 5. dannyno | 19/03/2016
re: Martin's question about "silvered something"

I always heard this in relation to "what are those trees? Painted white jobs." In which case.. Silver birch? We're listening in to a bit of dialogue.
dannyno
  • 6. dannyno | 04/05/2016
In Brix's autobiography, The Rise, The Fall, and the Rise, she tells us that she came up with the title of this song.
dannyno
  • 7. dannyno | 04/05/2016
According to Brix Smith-Start's autobiography, The Rise, The Fall, and The Rise:


I actually came up with the title and wrote it. I was obsessed with Terry Waite... who was on the news every day. He was in Lebanon at the time trying to secure the release of hostages. I was very caught up in his story, which had echoes of the American hostage crisis during the Iranian Revolution - an incident my stepfather Marvin, an expert on the Middle East, had been heavily involved in. it was only after we released the song that Terry Waite himself got kidnapped. I remember hearing a rumour that a member of Terry Waite's family had contacted Beggars Banquet for the lyrics to the song, in case there were some psychic clues to his whereabouts hidden in the words.
dannyno
  • 8. dannyno | 02/06/2016
Another nugget from an interview with Brix:
http://louderthanwar.com/brix-smith-just-released-acclaimed-autobiography-depth-interview

I believe that Mark is a psychic. He’s written songs about things that came to pass later. I quite a spiritual person. I also believe that I’m a psychic. I believe that he and I connect on multi levels. I believe that everything is vibrational based. We could talk about that all day. I hear things in my head. I’m not nuts. Maybe I am nuts. (Laughs). Where does inspiration come from? You tell me. I hear in my head this song is called ‘Terry Waite Sez’. I hand the song to Mark. I tell him it HAS to be called ‘Terry Waite Sez’. At this point Terry Waite was the envoy to the Archbishop of Canterbury. We record the song. He ends up getting kidnapped. The song is released. Then his family call Beggars Banquet record company. They believe there might be clues in the lyrics as to where he’s being held. That was one instance but there were many more.


So here even the title is Brix's. So if we believe Brix, Mark's claim about the drunk in a Stockport pub looks implausible - as it always did, really. However, that doesn't mean the dialogue in the song weren't taken from such a characer.
dannyno
  • 9. dannyno | 02/06/2016
Just realised I've already noted that Brix says she came up with the title...
bzfgt
  • 10. bzfgt | 24/06/2016
I already have the information in #8 in the notes.
bzfgt
  • 11. bzfgt | 24/06/2016
Oops, no I don't, I just put it there tonight, via comment nummer 8....what do you know. Pretty soon we'll be citing ourselves in circles like they do...
bzfgt
  • 12. bzfgt | 24/06/2016
Damn it, the page is not obeying me, every time I hit "save" it changes "Here's Brix flogging her autobiography" back to italics. This is embarrassing and lame.

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